I have told this story on here before but one of the last WTF moments I had at a convention was one of the last time I attended a convention right after 9/11. An elder that I have known for 40 years cam up and said hello. Then he made a snide remark about how all of a sudden people start coming back after a couple of planes hit a couple of buildings.
William Penwell
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A WTF Moment While In the WTS
by Searching inhas anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".
for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.
it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.
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FYI: "Leah Remini's Anti-Scientology Documentary on A&E is scorching." Airs Tuesday the 29th, etc.
by AndersonsInfo inleah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.
"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.
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William Penwell
Just started watching all the episodes and i am now on episode 5. The terminology is different but it is uncanny how Scientology and the WT use much of the same tactics. As far as I know the WT does not go as far as publicly confronting ex members and video taping them.
I would like to write to Leah and just tell her that my experiences with the WT are much the same as what she and the other ex Scientologists have gone through.
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Class Action Lawsuit Against The Watchtower Corporation By The Multitude Left Penniless After A Vow Of Poverty And Obediance Lasting Decades
by Brokeback Watchtower inwell i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.
no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..
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William Penwell
Good thing I did not buy into their BS years ago and was able to work at a company that offered a pension plan and benefits. The WT does not care about the rank and file dub but will use them until they are no longer useful and discard them like yesterdays trash.
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The JW governing body are all overweight, creepy looking little men
by jambon1 inhaving seen a few of these tv productions and some youtube clips of their assembly parts, how can jehovah's witnesses really take these silly little men seriously?.
you take one look at them; their overweight, fat little bodies.
their entirely shabby, overhanging suits.
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William Penwell
I don't know how anybody takes American fundamentalism seriously. --No wonder the rest of the world thinks we're stupid......
I refer to them as the American Taliban.
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I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion
by jambon1 insome facts that make the difference between you and me:.
1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.
how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.
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William Penwell
I agree that if I was to raise children now I would not raise them in any religious faith based system. I do not hold any animosity toward my parents as they did not know what they were doing and they did the best they could raising me. I hold the animosity toward the religion itself.
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Why take it personally?
by stuckinarut2 ina random thought occurred to me today.. i actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .. they do this based not on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.. it must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has not actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.. it reminded me of this thread i started some time back.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation.
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William Penwell
A random thought occurred to me today.
I actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .
They do this based NOT on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.
It must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has NOT actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.I am in this same situation with my family and you know it didn't bother me. I have had people come and go in my life and I just move on. If my family choose not to talk to me its their lose not mine. I can go on and be happy doing what I want to do without a conditional cult telling me what I should and shouldn't do.
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The increasing WT magazine
by darkspilver inapart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.
2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .
2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.
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William Penwell
Out side of lining a garbage can what good is this rag anyway?
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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way
by notsurewheretogo inthe statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?
" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.
is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".
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William Penwell
If the GB is not spirit directed or inspired, why does the rank and file listen to them? This was always the hook they had on the rank and file. You are correct they will spin this one also to their advantage but I remember growing up we were always told the GB had a direct connect to Jehovah.
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Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?
by Half banana ini remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.
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William Penwell
I recall years ago someone made a joke about the dubs on a TV and my ex who is a staunch dub even laughed at it.
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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?
by snugglebunny inhaving seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
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William Penwell
I know myself just in my own family that I think it is the women that are more attached as it is more of a social event for them than for the men. Myself I am just as happy sitting at home and watching a football game than sitting through a boring meetings just to full fill a social need.